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"By the way, if towing is an issue check the tow ratings of both. On some vehicles, like the Ford Ranger, the tow ratings of the auto is significantly higher than the stick. That surprised the heck out of me after I had already purchased one."

Ken, I think that's due to the necessary clutch slippage needed with today's high geared transmissions and rear ends. My F150 is rated low for towing in the same way. It's not that it can't tow just as much as the automatic. It's just that many people cannot drive a clutch anymore. It takes some finesse to get a big load started.
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Ken, Yes, some of the rangers had weak manual transmissions (maybe all?). I almost bought one with the tranny out because the rest of it was in such nice shape. The salvage yard guys just laughed.
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"it will have to wait until the tractor is paid off in six months."

I hear ya Ken. Same here but more like 24 months. My 98 F150 now has 209K with no problems. I'm shooting for 300K.

Do you really change transmission fluid every 15K? You are talking about a manual aren't you?
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Manual trans in a half ton truck or less are unfortunately not made to tow much of anything. The five speeds are geared for highway driving. First gear is very high in my F150 and suited mainly for stoplight drag racing. With no "granny gear" it requires alot of clutch slipping to get the load started. You have to get a 3/4 ton or bigger truck to get a suitable manual transmission.
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Ken, Yes, some of the rangers had weak manual transmissions (maybe all?). I almost bought one with the tranny out because the rest of it was in such nice shape. The salvage yard guys just laughed. Dave

"it will have to wait until the tractor is paid off in six months." I hear ya Ken. Same here but more like 24 months. My 98 F150 now has 209K with no problems. I'm shooting for 300K. Do you really change transmission fluid every 15K? You are talking about a manual aren't you? Dave

Ken, Yes, some of the rangers had weak manual transmissions (maybe all?). I almost bought one with the tranny out because the rest of it was in such nice shape. The salvage yard guys just laughed.
Dave

"it will have to wait until the tractor is paid off in six months."

I hear ya Ken. Same here but more like 24 months. My 98 F150 now has 209K with no problems. I'm shooting for 300K.

Do you really change transmission fluid every 15K? You are talking about a manual aren't you?
Dave